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Poster: adamelijah Date: Aug 21, 2010 10:51pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: What Is Gone

I suppose if you look at it like that, there's not a reason to be mad about it. I guess I look at it differently. I think their claims are almost certainly legally invalid. Beyond that, I think that Radio Spirit's actions are a threat to the survival part of our American culture, our heritage. If the only way that people can get Old Time Radio in the future is through paying for Radio Spirit's overpriced sets, much of this will be lost to future generations. It's lot easier to get into something free, than something that cost an absurd amount of money.

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Poster: abisynthe Date: Aug 22, 2010 1:13am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: What Is Gone

The scope of copyright and it's impact on culture are irrelevant. Money is irrelevant.



This post was modified by abisynthe on 2010-08-22 08:13:56

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Poster: Mr Filow Date: Aug 22, 2010 6:04pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: What Is Gone


I suggest you all make digital copies of your Radio Spirits Material (your legal backup copy) and then dump all of the Radio Spirits material back into the market [Ebay, Amazon, ...](and forget to delete your backup copy). Then suggest to the next guy he do the same thing. This will take all of the money off of the table for RS and reduce their catalog value to 0.

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Poster: drspark61 Date: Aug 22, 2010 9:31pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: What Is Gone

The thing to do would be to put all the shows up on an offshore torrent site like The Pirate's Bay. The casual listener is unlikely to make the effort to obtain shows in this way, but at least the material would remain in circulation.

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Poster: adamelijah Date: Aug 22, 2010 10:07pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: What Is Gone

er-the material is available on dozens of other sites. I won't list them here, but plenty of places. If history's any guide, Radio Spirits isn't going to go after everyone who has some Sam Spade on their site or Burns and Allen, rather they'll file a few DMCA notices with Archive.org and with a few sites that care to act on it, but even the Shadow which they claimed before this is available on countless websites.

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Poster: RadioMan52 Date: Aug 25, 2010 2:04pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: What Is Gone

You are correct that they are available at other sites unfortunately RS and others of the same ilk have sent letters and funds to the main search engine providers to basically blank out many of the “unofficial” sites that have not kowtowed to their demand letters and are still permitting downloads the only sites that you get on the main are his…...
It still is a puzzling mystery on how he can claim that he owns the rights to something that was in the public domain and freely available way before he even opened up the “Spirits” BS when he was in college, If I remember he even stated in a few of his radio programs that he was obtaining the material by FTP download from “Bulletin Boards” remember them?
So if you want to get some of the material it looks like we may have to resort to the “torrent” system as a get even BBS to Torrent, full circle as far as I can see

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Poster: adamelijah Date: Aug 25, 2010 4:19pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: What Is Gone

Regarding Radio Spirits paying off the search engines. They're really not doing all that well. I did a search for "The Shadow Old Time Radio" on Google and there are two sites with nearly 60 episodes right near the top, with Radio Spirits in 10th place.

There are a lot of nasty things that go with Torrents. I think that's kind of a last resort for anything.